J&K Article 370 Hearing in Supreme Court: Know FULL UPDATES From Day 2 Here

J&K Article 370 Hearing in Supreme Court: Know FULL UPDATES From Day 2 Here

The Supreme Court, on Wednesday, began hearing petitions challenging the scrapping of Article 370 that granted special status to the erstwhile state of Jammu and Kashmir. A five-judge Constitution Bench comprising Chief Justice of India (CJI) DY Chandrachud and Justices Sanjay Kishan Kaul, Sanjiv Khanna, BR Gavai and Surya Kant will hear the pleas on a day-to-day basis except Mondays and Fridays. The petitions challenge a presidential order from August 5, 2019, which abrogated Article 370.

Senior advocate Kapil Sibal on August 3 argued before the Supreme Court that the Legislature did not have the power to recommend the abrogation of Article 370 as per the provisions of the Jammu & Kashmir (J&K) Constitution.

Mr. Sibal also referred to the Constitution (Application to Jammu and Kashmir) Orders of 1950 and 1954 to contend that a ‘solemn promise’ was made that no legislation that intends to revise the boundaries of J&K can be passed without the concurrence of the J&K government.

He pointed out that although the Presidential Order of 2019 [C.O. 272] had invoked Article 368 of the Constitution to transfer power to recommend abrogation from the ‘Legislative Assembly’ to the ‘Constituent Assembly’ – this was not permitted as per the court’s prior ruling in Kesavananda Bharati v. State of Kerala (1973).

FULL UPDATES From Day 2 Here

Arguments have concluded for the day. Court will resume hearing on August 8. The Bench has risen for the day. The court will resume hearing on Tuesday (August 8).

 

03 Aug 2023, 05:03:12 PM IST

People who gave themselves this constitution are left out of process, says Sibal

Justice Surya Kant asked, as quoted by LiveLaw,” What was the procedure followed in passing the constitution order?”

To this, Sibal said, “All passed with concurrence.”

Then Justice Kant asked again, “But what was the procedure? Was it through the parliament? Or by the president?”

Sibal said, “It was through a presidential notification – after taking the consent – concurrence or consultation. That’s how it’s made applicable. The views of the people were to be taken.”

He added, “When all states were getting integrated into the Union, they didn’t need consent.”

He continued, “But since J&K was not integrated, so you lose the link between the center and the state altogether. You absorb the powers of the state with yourself as the executive, as well as the parliament and the legislature. And you decide without reference to any other institution.”

“So you give yourself consent. The people who gave themselves this constitution are left out of the process. This is essentially a breakdown of the constitutional structure,” Sibal said, as LiveLaw quoted.

 

03 Aug 2023, 04:31:32 PM IST

‘Can a ratification be done under 356?’ asks CJI DY Chandrachud

CJI DY Chandrachud then asked, as quoted by LiveLaw, “Can a ratification be done under 356? In relation to that particular state legislature?

To this, Sibal said, “No, because he’s exercising as state legislature.” He went on adding, “Ratification is of the state so there are two authorities — one parliament passing the law and then the state authority ratifying it. You can’t take over both. It’s like clapping by one hand. You can’t even introduce the bill, forget about anything else! It’s clear you can’t introduce the bill. Here, by 356 you have done away with it.”

Following this, the discussion shifted to the conversion of Jammu and Kashmir into Union Territory.

03 Aug 2023, 04:16:21 PM IST

‘You don’t use 356 for its (democracy) decimation’, says Kapil Sibal

After listening to the argument of Sibal, CJI DY Chandrachud said, as LiveLaw quoted, “Of course this has the optics about the way it was done. But there is no challenge to do anythimng that was done,” adding, “What’s the frame of the challenge?”

To this, Sibal said, “The question is what is the power under 356. The quintessential object of 356 is to restore democracy. You take over because a government cannot run..for a temporary period, for the restoration of democracy. You don’t use 356 for its decimation.”

03 Aug 2023, 04:08:45 PM IST

This is pure political act; governor, govt were in tandem: Sibal 

Sibal further said, as quoted by LiveLaw, “the council of ministers was suspended. The governor didn’t even wait for a day.”

Justice Kaul said, “That’s also a part of the political process.”

To this, Sibal said, “That’s precisely what I am saying,” adding that the governor dissolved the government on 21 November.

Sibal said, as LiveLaw quoted, “The Governor cannot dissolve the legislative assembly without the council of ministers. 36, 38, and 92 are his only powers. He has already suspended the council of ministers.”

He added, “This is pure political act. The governor and government were in tandem. They wanted to get rid of 370. Why would governor on 20th June, after withdrawal of support on 19 June suspend the assembly? Not allow any political affiliation so a new government could be formed?”

He then showed the proclamation to the bench, saying on 19 December, the proclamation of governor’s rule expires. He then added, that a proclamation under 365 promulgating President’s rule is passed.

“There is no council of ministers, no government in place. But he send a report that government of the state cannot be carried out. There are no negotiations, no communication. This is amazing piece of handiwork. This is a mosaic of illegalities,” LiveLaw quoted Sibal as saying.

03 Aug 2023, 03:55:53 PM IST

Can’t introduce bill at 11 o’clock,  and pass a resolution without anyone knowing about it: Kapil Sibal

Debating in the Supreme Court, Senior Advocate Kapil Sibal said, as quoted by LiveLaw, “You can’t introduce a bill in parliament at 11 o’clock, pass a resolution without anyone knowing about it.”

He added, “It sorts of fits into the argument that this was a political process, carried through constitutional means.”

To this Justice SK Kaul said, “Everything is a political process Mr Sibal, the question is if it fits the constitution.”

03 Aug 2023, 02:43:40 PM IST

Legislative assembly cannot be converted into constituent assembly: Kapil Sibal

“Legislative assembly cannot be converted into constituent assembly because intent of legislature can be partisan but that cannot be with the constituent assembly,” Sibbal said.

 

Sibal: I was reading Kesavananda Bharati judgment on the point of marginal note and how it plays a small role in the constructive interpretation of the Constitution of India and Article 368.

Legislative assembly cannot be converted into constituent assembly because intent of legislature can be partisan but that cannot be with the constituent assembly.

Justice Kaul: Was the constituent assembly of J&K elected?

 

Aug 3, 2023 14:19 IST

  • Supreme Court resumes hearing on Article 370
Aug 3, 2023 13:02 IST
  • Article 370 hearing to resume in Supreme Court at 2 pm
Aug 3, 2023 13:02 IST

Article 370 hearing updates: I am not being political but this is worrisome, Kapil Sibal tells Supreme Court bench

 

Sibal: I am not being political, but this is a worrisome part.

Sibal: I am making a fundamental point here which affects the future of our country. If you in principle say, that a parliament can convert itself in a constituent assembly, then where do we go? Forget about this case. I’m far more worried about our future. It’s a political process in the context of aspirations of all those participating in the constituent assembly.

Sibal: So if you have provisions dealing with minorities, reservations, SC/ST etc- that’s a political process. That’s why our constitution is what it is today. Here it was an amalgamation of colours to be united as one- that is the tiranga

 

Aug 3, 2023 12:51 IST

Abrogation of Article 370 was a political act to achieve political purpose, says Kapil Sibal

 

Sibal: The Constituent Assembly had a choice till 1957 to recommend the abrogation of Article 370 and be a part of India without any conditions like the other States. They chose not to.

Sibal: Legislature cannot exercise powers to amend 370(3).

CJI: Article 147 of the J&K constitution seems to indicate that the provisions of the J&K constitution are to be treated as subordinate to the Indian Constitution. Which is why, no amendment in the relationship between application of Indian constitution to J&K is applicable.

Sibal: We are not amending the constitution of India. We are amending the constitution order applicable to the state of J&K which makes 370 applicable. And that can’t even be moved in the house.

Sibal: This was a political act to achieve a political purpose

Sibal: There is a clear distinction between the exercise of constituent power and the exercise of legislative power. Parliament while enacting a law, functions within the contours of the Constitution. Constituent Assembly has no Constitution in place

Sibal: A constituent assembly can do what it likes till such time a Constitution is made.  At no point in time in law, can a legislative assembly be converted into a constituent assembly. It’s not bound by anyone.

Aug 3, 2023 12:36 IST

Article 370 hearing updates: Kapil Sibal reads from Constitution of J&K

CJI: What happens when the Maharaja is replaced by an elected government in J&K?

Sibal: Then the elected government on aid and advice of council of ministers and it’s part of the Constitution of J&K.

Sibal reads from the Constitution of J&K

Sibal: So when this abrogation happened in 2018 there was no council of ministers.

Senior advocate Kapil Sibal then read exceptions given to the governor of Jammu and Kashmir.

 

Aug 3, 2023 11:45 IST

I can show you Article 370 is permanent: Senior advocate Kabil Sibal

Sibal: Article 370 can’t be touched. All other things can be.

Justice Khanna: (c) doesn’t say Article 370 cannot be touched! In fact, it makes it very clear that it can be touched.

Sibal: 370(1)(c) or Article 3, can’t! A marginal note cannot say that it is temporary so I read this in this fashion. That can’t be done.

Sibal: You are now to apply provisions of the Constitution of India. And they are all incorporated in the order. So 356 comes there, Part III, Preamble, DPSPs- come there but that’s all with concurrence.

Sibal: It’s the question of substantive understanding of what 370 is.

Justice Khanna: The exception made here is that the entire Constitution is adopted, subject to the modifications made.

Sibal: Yes, other than Article 1 and 3. We can interpret in whatever manner we can.

Sibal: I can show how Article 370 is permanent.

 

Aug 3, 2023 11:42 IST

Article 370 hearing in Supreme Court Updates

CJI: What clause (d) says that if the President is making a modification, exception- then you require a consultation or concurrence in terms of second proviso. What happens if the President is not making any exception or modification at all? Does that require concurrence or consultation?

Sibal: The law is not yet being made. So they are correlating the making of law to the items of lists. The clause says is that qua the lists in the IoA, the parliament may make a law but in consultation.

Sibal: Let me show you the 1950 order.

Aug 3, 2023 11:29 IST

Article 370 hearing in Supreme Court Updates

Kapil Sibal: There were substantive provisions of the Constitution of India that were to be made applicable to J&K- the DPSPs or even Article 356. These were all done through the application order. That’s the power under 370(1)(d)- with concurrence.

Kapil Sibal: Substantive provisions of the Constitution were made applicable- that also with concurrence. I want to show you the 1954 constitutional order which superseded the 1950 order. And it’ll show what was done. Nothing was ever done without concurrence except those four items. Never.

CJI: What’s the distinction between consultation with the Govt of State which is referred to in the first proviso to Art 370(1)(d) and then clause (i) of (b). There has to be a reason. Also (b)(i) refers to the specification of matters which are covered by the IoA, in respect of which parliament can make laws.

Kapil Sibal: Law is not made, the contours under which law will be enacted.

Aug 3, 2023 11:26 IST

Supreme Court begins hearing petitions challenging abrogation of Article 370

Senior advocate Kapil Sibal resumes arguments on behalf of Akbar Lone.

A Constitution bench of the Supreme Court of India is hearing a batch of petitions challenging the abrogation of Article 370 of the Constitution which conferred special status on the erstwhile State of Jammu and Kashmir.

A Bench of Chief Justice of India DY Chandrachud, Justices Sanjay Kishan KaulSanjiv Khanna, BR Gavai and Surya Kant is hearing the matter.

Yesterday, the top court began hearing in the matter with a question to the petitioners about whether the Constitution makers and Article itself envisaged the provision as a permanent or temporary one.

The Court sought to know whether the Article was envisaged as a permanent provision merely because the Constituent Assembly of Jammu and Kashmir (J&K), which was empowered to recommend the deletion of the provision, ceased to exist in 1957.

The CJI was referring to the proviso to clause 3 of Article 370 as per which the recommendation of the Constituent Assembly of Jammu and Kashmir is necessary before Article 370 can be declared to be inoperative by the President of India.

Over 20 petitions are pending before the Supreme Court challenging the Central government’s 2019 decision to abrogate Article 370 of the Constitution, which resulted in the revocation of Jammu and Kashmir’s special status. The erstwhile State was subsequently bifurcated into two Union Territories.

When the matters were listed in March 2020, a five-judge Constitution Bench of the Supreme Court had decided not to refer the batch of petitions to a seven-judge Constitution Bench, despite some petitioners seeking a reference.

On July 11 this year, two petitioners, Shah Faesal and Shehla Rashid sought permission to withdraw their pleas and the request was allowed by the Court.

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